America’s Sorriest Bus Stop: Indianapolis vs. Munhall, Pennsylvania

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With today’s match, we’ve now seen half the field of 16 in Streetsblog’s 2017 Sorriest Bus Stop Tournament.

These bus stops are a reflection of the low priority that local government agencies place on safe access and comfortable waiting environments for transit riders. They say a lot about transit agencies and state and city DOTs — as well as our car-centric development patterns. Getting to the bus is one of the most important elements in the transit experience — but the message these bus stops send is that the experience of bus riders doesn’t matter.

Bus stops in Pittsburgh and Chapel Hill are through to the second round so far, with voting still open in yesterday’s southern California contest.

Here are the next two bus stops vying for a good national shaming…

Indianapolis

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An anonymous reader submitted this sorry bus stop:

Located at Guion Rd and the intersection with 38th St/I-65 in Indianapolis. 38th Street has a 55 mph speed limit, runs adjacent to I-65. The stop has no benches, no concrete or asphalt pad, no sidewalk, no shade or shelter, nor is there a possibility for a stop in the opposite direction. The stop, however, is used, as evidenced by desire lines from repeated use.

Agencies responsible: IndyGo, Indiana DOT.

Munhall, Pennsylvania

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This nomination comes from historian Peter Norton, author of Fighting Traffic. What are you supposed to do once the bus drops you off on a slope between a guardrail and train tracks? How do people walk here? At least there’s a little gap to pass through so you don’t have to straddle the guardrail every time you board the bus.

The location is more central than it looks. It’s directly across the Monongahela River from Pittsburgh, about seven miles from Carnegie Mellon University.

Agencies responsible: Borough of Munhall, Port Authority of Allegheny County.

Which bus stop is the sorriest?

  • Munhall (83%, 617 Votes)
  • Indianapolis (17%, 122 Votes)

Total Voters: 739

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18 thoughts on America’s Sorriest Bus Stop: Indianapolis vs. Munhall, Pennsylvania

  1. guess what…I have to use the Munhall one….I got hit by a car getting off of the bus coming from downtown coming from work 4 in the afternoon…me and my husband have to use that bus stop.. otherwise we would have to walk on route 837 with no sidewalks for a long while with a greater chance of getting run over…

  2. its either use the Munhall bus stop or walk on route 837 into homestead with no sidewalks to help you…we live across the street from that Munhall stop…hubby and I have no choice..

  3. Are these stops actually used? I assume these transit agencies actually track usage. Or do these stops simply exist to give the illusion of coverage? Not that it matters, transit isn’t even an option in those locations. The Munhun stop has an overpass over the tracks a short distance back which you might think could be an option, but nope, no sidewalk there either.

    These stops are lies. And if they’re actually used, they’re damn lies.

  4. A little context from a local. No doubt this is a sorry bus stop. 38th Street is the main east west corridor across the north middle section of Indianapolis. Most of 38th Street is a 4-6 lane local commercial corridor. This 2-3 mile section is where 38th street parallels I-65 South.

    I pass by here most days. A few people use this stop. There used to be a smaller hospital nearby. Yes it is terribly unsafe with no sidewalks in the area. However, if there were no stop here, there would be no access to transit along a major corridor for 2-3 miles.

    IndyGo is working very hard to improve stops in Indianapolis after 40 years of a minimally funded system. We are about to have a massive investment in transit here with the new transit tax. We have a long way to go but things will improve.

  5. I think it is worth noting that this particular stop is going away in 2019 as frequent service will move from West 38th to West 30th to serve more people and Marian University.

  6. It’s worth noting that, as part of Indy’s network restructuring, the West 38th stop will be deactivated. The service will be replaced by a 15-minute frequency crosstown line along the much more walkable 30th Street and provide a direct connection to five other high frequency lines and two bus rapid transit lines.

  7. As a little background of the Munhall stop, across the railroad tracks once was the US Steel Homestead Works. This bus stop was at a mill gate for employees to enter. Once the mill was gone, for some reason, they do not appear to have discontinued the bus stop. There is another one about thirty yards up the road on either side.

  8. guess what there are still houses on rt 837 or 8th ave….and there is hill top street that goes down to 837 that is right across that bus stop..we live right on 837.. the first picture is my house to the bus stop…the second and third pictures are the next bus stop on 837 and ravine street.. the last one is my house again on 837 https://uploads https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e03fe95a70716b69fea05329342ce6bc2cf1798e001dad6b5e86308bc60a91e6.jpg .disquscdn.com/images/ef9600c0ee33ef78b8fd60cb2e02d8e51fcdab585c9b1b7337bd529200d04472.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7d0e8c510fda4a4bec6a83bc4adfbf08d563b9eaf8d49914b32ed528b298a54.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f3f9d80fe0b3e818c22d5ccf28b5991a39fb13e237005a00b70477c10835523.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2395506fd07db1d5c04a103759d5a2dfaa3da64f1fa2e9d409136ffcf1ee2397.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3099e679e3763a561079f46fa78fc7d5292a359d39ec4e58e2a3bbd4e1ed630d.jpg

  9. no side walks…years ago there were houses there but were torn down and the sidewalks covered…I live in my husbands childhood home here on rt 837 and he is 73 years old and remembers the houses and sidewalks as a kid but as time went buy so did the sidewalks..it would be nice if Munhall would get a little backhoe and uncover the sidewalk down to ravine street to a safer bus stop…plus I am 60 and disabled and my husband is 73 and retired with 3 knee operations…we use the bus stop to get to doctors office at Alleghany general hospital and others in Oakland…plus you cant drive when you go to the eye doctor and he puts drops in your eyes…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7d0e8c510fda4a4bec6a83bc4adfbf08d563b9eaf8d49914b32ed528b298a54.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f3f9d80fe0b3e818c22d5ccf28b5991a39fb13e237005a00b70477c10835523.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef9600c0ee33ef78b8fd60cb2e02d8e51fcdab585c9b1b7337bd529200d04472.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2395506fd07db1d5c04a103759d5a2dfaa3da64f1fa2e9d409136ffcf1ee2397.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3099e679e3763a561079f46fa78fc7d5292a359d39ec4e58e2a3bbd4e1ed630d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e03fe95a70716b69fea05329342ce6bc2cf1798e001dad6b5e86308bc60a91e6.jpg

  10. What he’ll do you know about a 3rd world country. Your posting on the web from a smart phone. You would never survive here.

  11. Struck a nerve have I? You don’t know anything about me, but it’s not my fault this looks like a third world country. Or maybe you’re just a troll. What do I care.

  12. Darn it, I missed the voting. But the Indy stop not only has no sidewalk on that street, but no sidewalk on the connecting street. Also, 38th St is fenced off from the buidlings you see behind it.

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