America’s Sorriest Bus Stop: San Diego vs. Commerce

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We’re onto the third match in the first round of Streetsblog’s annual sorry bus stop tournament.

In the first two contests, Pittsburgh beat Medford, Massachusetts, and Chapel Hill eliminated San Juan to get through to the second round.

Today’s face-off pits two bus stops in southern California against each other. Vote for your choice for the worst below.

San Diego

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Reader Mathew Sterling sent in this entry. He writes:

This bus stop is on Mission Center Road across from Sevan Court in Mission Valley, San Diego. Specifically the one on the East side (on the left of the picture). [On] this road people drive highway speeds all the time. It already is a joke that there is a bike lane, everyone I know living around here wouldn’t risk it. The bus would block the bike lane and presumably the entire car lane, while the person leaving or entering the bus has almost nowhere to stand and has to cross four lanes of fast cars. And this is in a central part of San Diego, not some rural area.

Agencies responsible: San Diego Street Division, San Diego Metropolitan Transit System.

Commerce, California

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This submission on S. Atlantic Boulevard outside Los Angeles comes from reader Colin Wright. While it may not look as bleak as some other competitors this year, consider that this is a densely populated area where lots of people depend on transit. Wright says:

This bus stop is sorry for a few reasons. First, it obviously lacks a comfortable, dignified waiting area. It offers no place to sit and no shade. A man was hiding behind a large utility pole just out of frame of this picture to escape the afternoon sun and heat.

More importantly, the street is dangerous for pedestrians. A high amount of fast-moving freight traffic passes along this road at 40+ MPH, and there’s an extremely wide intersection just to the right of this picture where pedestrians have been struck and killed over the last few years. This is an urban area that relies on transit to access LA, but unfortunately this stop is emblematic of the quality of many of the bus stops in this community.

Agencies responsible: Commerce Transportation Department, LA Metro.

Which should advance to round two? Vote below.

Which bus stop is sorriest?

  • San Diego (81%, 371 Votes)
  • Commerce, CA (19%, 85 Votes)

Total Voters: 456

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  • Baloo Uriza

    I feel like this competition is completely ignoring Tulsa’s 52,000 out of over 57,000 bus stops that don’t even have a bus stop sign.

  • Larry Littlefield

    I rode a bus in Tulsa. Once, in 1981 or so. That was enough.

  • Baloo Uriza

    If you’re going to or coming from or changing bus at one of the two stations in town, or if your line is a direct route, Tulsa Transit actually isn’t that bad these days, and certainly better than Portland, Oregon’s TriMet is now. Especially at the Tulsa Transit stations as compared to TriMet’s transit centers: Tulsa’s just lightyears better with practically airport-like amenities including restrooms, concessions, air conditioning/heating, indoor seating, live arrivals/destinations on display, and the local news on a continuous loop on TV. Portland’s transit centers have concessions, but no restrooms, they’re entirely outside and exposed to the weather, buses and trains arrive when they arrive, and you’re completely fucked for entertainment during a layover if you didn’t bring headphones.

    Getting there from the burbs, though? You just have to know in Tulsa. I’ve introduced out of towners to the system, and stopped walking in the middle of a parking strip on a street with no shoulders 50 meters after a roundabout and just waited there, with them wondering if we were in the right spot even after I hailed the bus until it literally came to a stop and opened the door for us…

  • Sam Jensen

    That stop in Commerce would be an above average bus stop in the Twin Cities. We’re lucky if the stop even says what bus serves it or has a sidewalk connected to it, even in the middle of Minneapolis or St Paul. The San Diego one is even slightly better than an average suburban stop here.

  • Jenny Reiswig

    Do y’all have a “loveliest bus stop” competition also? Because I want to nominate this one, also in (north) San Diego: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bmljenny/2306689370/

  • AB3

    At a bare minimum, the San Diego bus stop should at least have a crosswalk!

  • SDGreg

    The Suck Diego solution would be to put in a $350,000 crosswalk, like the one near where I live, with embedded flashing lights and that’s still ignored by drivers because of poor street design. City officials and traffic engineers should actually have to use the monstrosities they approve and fund.

  • Mathew

    Wow, I actually forgot about my post. My email acted like it didn’t make it through. It made it on a local news channel today.

  • dustinjamesfoster

    From a utilitarian perspective, the Commerce stop may be worse as it likely serves a greater number of people and still lacks to provide shade, seating, etc. However, from a purely design perspective, the Commerce stop has sidewalk access. To me, that makes the San Diego stop the ‘sorrier’ of the two stops shown as it lacks basic amenities needed for safe access.

  • Guest

    Sounds like it’s a moot point considering it’s not even an active bus stop. I guess Commerce wins by default!

  • Flatlander

    The San Diego stop is absolutely worse, but if the transit agency isn’t providing service to that stop anymore, I guess Seattle wins by technicality?

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