Amtrak Foe Mica Meets His Match in John Robert Smith

I just sat through a pretty boring hearing on rail financing. But I’m glad I stuck it out, because the fireworks came at the end, when Rep. John Mica picked a fight with the wrong man.

John Robert Smith held his own in a testy exchange with Rep. John Mica today. Photo: ## America##

John Robert Smith is familiar face in transportation reform circles. The former Republican mayor of the town of Meridian, Mississippi, he now leads two of the most significant advocacy organizations in the field, Transportation for America and Reconnecting America. He also happens to be a former chair of Amtrak’s board of directors. All of those qualifications made him a natural choice to testify as a witness at this House Transportation Committee hearing.

Smith’s three main points were relatively uncontroversial: (1) a national passenger rail system has significant economic value; (2) maximizing the system’s value requires increased, stable, and dedicated federal funding; and (3) station area development is a promising area for utilizing innovative financing mechanisms.

Questioning went relatively smoothly until John Mica, former committee chair and self-appointed Amtrak bully-in-chief, started in on Smith. (The video of their exchange is already on Youtube.)

Now that Mica has vacated the chairman’s seat, he’s really let his freak flag fly, as they say. No longer bound to even pretend to negotiate with the other party or with leadership, he can just focus singlemindedly on his obsession with defunding Amtrak, and he apparently doesn’t feel bound to maintain any semblance of collegiality.

Mica started off asking Smith if he was aware that the federal debt was $16 trillion, or that funding had been cut for troops to receive hot meals.

Smith replied that his focus is transportation, and since he wasn’t able to poke holes in Mica’s line of argument, allow me to fill in. I didn’t know about this cutting hot meals thing either, and my initial reaction, also, was indignation. But then I Googled it. John Mica could do this too. And if he did, he’d get a Snopes entry that says that troops get four meals a day, but yes, in a few places, a hot breakfast has been replaced with an “MRE” – “Meals Ready to Eat” – to streamline operations in preparation for force reduction. In reality, no one in the military seems all that bothered about it, and officials emphasize that it wasn’t a budget issue that prompted the change.

Kind of funny Mica would pick such a poor example of budget-cut pain when there are so many legit ones to choose from. He could even stick with the “hot meals” theme and lament the nutrition assistance he voted to cut, or the hit taken by Meals on Wheels, which will deliver four million fewer hot meals this year because of the sequester.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. So Mica transitions from the hot meals the troops aren’t getting to the fancy chefs cooking up haute cuisine on Amtrak’s long distance routes – his latest preoccupation. “I actually ride those trains and the dishes are not exotic aboard that service, and I think that ignores the larger issue,” Smith started to say. They Mica interrupted him and they sort of yelled back and forth for a while about money losses and ridership trends.

But Mica spared his real invective for the next part, where he let Smith know he’s seen “your little memo that you sent to my mayor.” Something about the belittling, eyes-in-the-back-of-my-head tone there was just chilling, like he’s saying he found the love notes Smith was writing to his wife. “House of Representatives slash Amtrak funding, putting the future of the national system in jeopardy!” Mica read the line in a high-pitched tone, mocking the hysteria Smith was clearly exhibiting when calling Winter Park Mayor Ken Bradley’s attention to the House cuts.

Does Smith really think a cut of $1.4 billion to $950 million is such a big deal? Well, yeah, actually. “Don’t you think the United States is under threat when you’re in debt up to your eyeballs, when you’re borrowing 40 cents on the dollar to underwrite your service?” Mica exploded. “You’re aware that every ticket on Amtrak last year was underwritten more than $40 per passenger ticket? You’re aware of that?”

“I’m aware that Amtrak is recovering 88 cents on every dollar,” Smith replied.

“But you’re aware that we subsidized every ticket on Amtrak over $40, including these long-distance tickets, some of them more than $400,” Mica continued, “and we can’t cut back, sir?”

Smith valiantly managed to get out, over Mica’s loud interruptions, that “every transportation system in this country” gets subsidies, “whether that’s highway, aviation, transit or rail,” and that no passenger rail system in the world pays for itself out of the farebox. Which led to a somewhat embarrassing elementary-school-style volley of “Not true!” and “Is so true!”

Mica railed against Amtrak’s “Soviet-style operations” and the money losses on food service aboard the trains and asked Smith if he should “go back and tell that mother [of the soldier not getting hot breakfasts], ‘You know, we need to put this money into Amtrak; we can’t take any cuts out of Amtrak.’”

To which John Robert Smith firmly replied: “That’s a false choice, Congressman.”

And he’s right. Additional revenues would solve all these problems, but that’s something Mica and others in his party refuse to countenance. Caught in a never-ending cycle of budget cuts, Mica himself has made some pretty devastating choices, like his vote to replace defense cuts with cuts to health care for children.

Still, he preferred to scold John Robert Smith like a schoolboy: “I’m not happy about your communication to my mayor,” Mica said.

“Thankfully, as a former mayor I still have the ability to contact my colleagues across the nation,” Smith said. “And most respond, and respond favorably, because they live in the same environment that I lived in for 16 years.”

And now that Mica had yielded the microphone, Smith added one more thing:

Let me just say, on the subject of the long-distance trains, that when my senator, Trent Lott, got to see the Mississippians, and saw that system was vitally important to them — the retired couples who use that system to visit their dispersed families across the country, the single mothers with children [for whom] the only the way they could visit their grand[parents] affordably was through the use of that train, the disabled vets that were on board that train — when he saw the Mississippians impacted and affected, he saw the importance of that facility.

With that, Republican Jeff Denham hastily adjourned the hearing.

7 thoughts on Amtrak Foe Mica Meets His Match in John Robert Smith

  1. The only way to win an argument: “LALA!! I CAN’T HEAR YOU!!! MY SHOUTING IS LOUDER THAN YOURS!!”

  2. To say the John Robert Smith is in any way a “match” to Congressman Mica is an insult to Mr. Smith. Thanks for this informative and amusing post.

  3. Mica doesn’t realize the damage he does to his fellow Republicans with his big mouth. While Amtrak isn’t perfect, he offers no practical alternative or solution to the needs of America, or a fix to what was once a privately run business that was destroyed by federal transportation policy that treated passenger trains the same way the government today treats coal powered power plants.

  4. Why would the Republikans even care? Their biological purpose is to steal as much as they can before they die. They aren’t interested in making things work, and never have been.

  5. Are those my only options? I’ll take the latter then, if only because they tend to have more empathy.

  6. It seems the problem here is that both sides of this argument represent diametrically opposed sides of this debate. Each man is using the same arguments that have been made ad nauseum for and against Amtrak almost since its founding over 42 years ago – and in the meantime nothing gets solved.

    Perhaps a middle ground would be for Senator Mica to recognize that a nation-wide rail passenger system is not going to be eliminated. Likewise, Mr. Smith should recognize that Amtrak has never learned to run a business – let alone its trains on time.

    The over-riding cause of Amtrak’s failure is due to its political nature. As long as the federal government controls the purse strings on all of Amtrak’s required funding, there will always be meddling by politicians trying to score points with their consistencies. This includes both Republicans who want to prove their fiscal bona fides and Democrats who are protecting grandma from getting run over by the raindeer-led opposition.

    The problem with this is that even though we all know Amtrak will finally get the funds they require, due to the inability of the politicians to come together on an approach, the system will continue on its historic path – which is to hobble along, providing the rudimentaries of train service which is a far cry from what its optimal performance could be. And we all suffer because we are not getting the train service that we expect and deserve for the amount of money that is spent on it.

    Why not think out of the box for a change. How about legislation that insures a nationwide system, but is allowed to be run by private business that would compete for the contracts to run those services?

    This network of businesses could remain a national system using an umbrella organization that provides a common name (how about something newer and fresher than ‘Amtrak’?) and infrastructure, including equipment. Each company would be allowed to differentiate itself through its service, interior decoration, etc.

    The point here is to de-link the infrastructure costs with the operation of the trains. We all know that no train service is profitable when all the costs are taken into consideration. And the difference – up to a specified maximum – between what a company can deliver in terms of service and its actual cost – could be reimbursed by the federal government.

    The point here first admit that are definite shortcomings in the current arrangement. The political meddling that hampers improving it needs to be lessened by leveraging the power that creative solutions – like competition provided by private enterprise – can bring to the table.

    What we need to do is stop enabling the political nonsense that is described here that merely keeps the same-old, same-old status quo.

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