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  1.  

    Alicia

    No to both options. You don’t like what we say here? Go back to Breitbart.

  2.  

    Fredster

    No the point is, there were two choices. Go around like a sane person would, or barrel through a crowd of pedestrians like a maniac. Your logic is ridiculous.

  3.  

    Fredster

    If he wanted to get through, he could have sent around the crowd of pedestrians, like all the other cars managed to do. Instead, he decides to plow through a crowd of people, and even as people fall to the ground IN FRONT of their vehicle, continues to hit the gas and barrel through not knowing if they crushed people to death. The only reason for this was to deliberately run people over. Nice try though.

  4.  

    Axebeard

    Good for the driver, I would’ve done the same thing with my van.

  5.  

    plinf

    It’s about forcing the public to see your anger, and to try and get them to understand. I was a member of ACT-UP in the late 80s/90s and we fucked shit up, and why? Because our people were DYING and no one fucking cared. If you don’t understand the anger and the NEED to protest then I feel very sorry for you

  6.  

    James

    Uhh no, he’s a certified maniac for driving over people, for doing something as innocuous as blocking ONE route as part of a protest. A sane, non-sociopathic person spends the extra 60 seconds to take a one block detour. Oh right i forgot, this is ‘MURICA, and we just do whatever the fuck is most convenient for ourselves.

  7.  

    KBlumreich

    I guess I don’t understand how blocking traffic is helping. Mostly all it does is piss off people who had nothing to do with the Grand Jury decision.

  8.  

    Bartholomew J. Worthington III

    I thought Subarus were made of “love”…

  9.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    You’re Suggesting that driving into and hitting pedestrians, which is what this guy did, which is also VERY illegal, is a better option than simply pulling a U-turn?

  10.  

    Lester

    So, having “drunk driver” convictions that date back over a decade makes you a “certified maniac”?

  11.  

    Lester

    The guys jumping on the hood were significantly *escalating* the situation. Also don’t forget, in traffic it’s not just illegal to put other lives in danger, but also your own. Being reckless in traffic can cause you to lose your driver’s license, even as a pedestrian.

  12.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    What would you do to them though? The one guy who jumps on the hood, should probably be fined for being an idiot, but, in this interaction, one person has the power to kill and maim, and one person has the power to well, Jump on a hood….. They’re very VERY different levels of harm-causing.

  13.  

    Lester

    I don’t disagree. Maybe the same should be true for the people jumping on the car hood?

  14.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    Frankly. when you’re that big of an idiot, you should lose your driver’s license. Especially when the context of this particular idiots past behavior comes into the picture.

  15.  

    Lester

    Look, there’s no doubt that this guy is an idiot for doing what he did. But he’s not an attempted murderer, he’s not a “maniac”, he’s just an idiot.

    And if you see some idiot coming down your road *slowly*, with a clear intent to *pass*,then *don’t* just decide to jump on his car, just because you feel strong in a crowd.

    That’s precisely what we have here, a couple of idiot particles colliding, causing an *accident*. This happens in our streets every day, killing thousands every year.

  16.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    Yes, but there is an ENORMOUS difference between a crowded Street (Like Pike place in Seattle, where its understood to be a shared space) and a protest, where the understanding every reasonable person has is that, the roadway is now pedestrian, and cars are not to cross until they pass.

  17.  

    Lee Crandell

    This explains it more from the news story. The driver is a certified maniac. Why do we let people like this operate a motor vehicle? “Rice’s driving history in Minnesota includes three drunken driving convictions, with the most recent coming in 2003, according to court records. He’s also been convicted of driving with an open liquor bottle, and driving after his license was canceled and in violation of restrictions placed on his license.”

  18.  

    Lester

    In this case, pretty stupid. On the other hand, driving through a crowded street *can* be done, and usually people will understand that they’re supposed to move to the side.

  19.  

    Lester

    People who panic tend to move *away* from danger. Instead, we see here a couple of tough guys jumping *onto* the car. The driver was trying to *slowly* get through the crowd, but the crowd insisted on trying to not let him pass.

    As stupid as trying to get through that crowd may be, *the driver* was attacked first.

  20.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    How stupid is it to drive directly into a crowd of people???

  21.  

    Lester

    From what I see (and you don’t see all of it), I see a guy jumping on the front of the car *from the side* (which means he didn’t get “shoveled up” or anything), and people hitting the car, all within seconds. The driver is not driving quickly either.

    Who tries to “push back” a *car* anyway? How stupid is that?

  22.  

    Lee Crandell

    If you push me with your car, that’s incredibly threatening. Remember, a car can easily be as deadly as a gun. If you point it at me like that, you better believe I’m going to take that as an attack.

  23.  

    Lee Crandell

    Seriously? The driver is encased in a metal bubble, unlike the girl whose bones he crushed. If you think that’s fair punishment for breaking a rule of the road, you’d be better company in China. I suppose next you’ll say it’s fair whenever a driver shoots another driver for failure to yield right of way.

  24.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtZnroezz5E#t=10

    this view shows the initial reaction of the protestors to simply be an attempt to stop the car.

  25.  

    Lee Crandell

    Of course they panic and bang on the hood when a driver starts to plow a car through a crowd of people! And it really doesn’t matter if they’re illegally blocking the street and unfairly inconveniencing people — it is NEVER okay to use your vehicle as a weapon to threaten people to get out of your way. This homicidal idiot belongs in prison.

  26.  

    Chicken Hammer

    You call them ‘protesters’ if you like @niallhuffman:disqus but I’ll continue to refer to that mob as the bunch of bipedal parasites they are. If they had made better life choices they might better understand how a 2,000+ pound car will always win that fight.

  27.  

    Lester

    What are you talking about?

    The longer video zooms in at 0:12 at which point he already has two people sitting on top of his car, obstructing his view. The girl has her back to the car and trips, landing in front of the car at which point he *stops*. That’s when all hell breaks loose and people start smashing the car.

  28.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    How does that even follow? If there’s a car accident, they close the road, that’s an acceptable reason to turn around and find another route, but human being in the road, To hell with them, Roadkill, I’m glad you value Human Life at all.

  29.  

    Chicken Hammer

    And maybe he should have stopped at the ATM on his way to empty out his bank account and ‘redistribute’ his wealth to them too?

  30.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    They didn’t really attack initially, they tried to push the car back, non-harmfully. If you watch the view from behind the car.

  31.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    A Bicyclist wouldn’t be stupid enough to try 99/100 times. They would easily divert around it because they are very maneuverable.

  32.  

    Lester

    “For the purpose of running people over”
    How do you know that? You don’t. You can tell he’s trying to get through there, and if people were acting sanely, they would let him pass and not *jump* on his car. Only after that happened, did he actually run over the girl. That is how it happened, you can see it in the video. You can point out he didn’t take the detour, but to say he didn’t take the detour to *harm people* when you *can’t know* whether that is the case, *that* is a lie.

  33.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    Driver could have thrown it into reverse and avoided all problems. The driver is an imbecile for trying to drive into a crowd.

  34.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    I concur with that assessment, in the up close views, the people are pushing the car back, or trying to, they aren’t “beating on it” they’re leaning into it trying to prevent it from going further into the crowd.

  35.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    When you hit me with a car, I hit back, I don’t care what speed you hit me at.

  36.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    Reverse, U-Turn, Find another road. NBD. PEople do it all the time for trains, accidents, etc. you are never guaranteed a free and clear roadway.

  37.  

    Lester

    How is it nonsense? I already said, he is an idiot for trying to drive through there. He is trying to get down *that* road, the cars taking the detour are taking left turns. Is that what he should have done also? Yes. That’s *his* mistake. The crowd decided to attack him, that’s *their* mistake. And that’s when he panicked and ran someone over.

    This is an accident caused by people acting like idiots. It’s not attempted murder or anything.

  38.  

    H L

    the point is, he shouldn’t have HAD TO swerve, reroute, or anything if he is on a paved marked STREET… From what it looks like, they needed to turn RIGHT, the entire crowd, is either on their right, or in front of them…. all the detoured traffic, is going left… if they don’t want to go left, why should the driver be forced to change their course due to an unauthorized, and unorganized protest?!?!?! They didn’t realize their error, and then was crowded on, yes, even BEFORE the run-over incident… 2-4 people are banging on her hood, it’s PLAIN AS DAY in the full video as well…So yeah, I can see doing the same thing, by assuming “Oh crap, I am screwed because i needed to turn right, and now all of these people are pissed and banging on my car, GOTTA GO!”

  39.  

    Fredster

    Nonsense. He turned into the crowd as opposed to even attempting to drive around them like the four other cars in the video did.

  40.  

    Fredster

    You can clearly see FOUR cars detouring around the crowd and him deliberately turn into the crowd for the purpose of running people over. Anyone who can’t plainly see that, is a liar.

  41.  

    Lester

    Just looking at the lower video, that guy was clearly being attacked before running over anyone. The girl was unlucky because she had her back to the car, but the driver literally had people jumping on his car front at the time. He probably didn’t even see her.

    Sure, the driver is an idiot for thinking he can just drive through angry protestors. But the protesters are also idiots trying to attack a car, instead of clearing the way from bystanders. Of course he is going to panic and run someone over! *You* wouldn’t act any different if you believed people were about to drag you out of the car and beat you, maybe to death. You’d do anything to save your life, instinctively. Don’t forget that you *are* legally entitled to use deadly force when your life is threatened. That’s the law, whether you like it or not.

    And of course, if you file a report to the police, they are going to refer to you as the *victim*. What else are they to do when they know nothing about the situation? When the girl files a report, she’ll be referred to as the victim, as well.

    People need to cool the f*ck down, because that’s what gets people killed: Outrage -> angry people -> panicked people + guns everywhere -> someone gets killed -> more outrage…

  42.  

    mike

    looks like attempted murder; again lives matter , more than your personal agenda

  43.  

    Chicken Hammer

    He did it on purpose because he was fleeing for his life from an angry and violent mob @disqus_TqQ3d9L58b:disqus Please pull your head out of that stinky hole buddy.

  44.  

    alexfrancisburchard

    No, he should have stopped before getting close to people. He shouldn’t have ever gotten anywhere near them. he should have waited for them to pass, or reversed, turned around and gone a different way.

  45.  

    Chicken Hammer

    The cure for mob violence is CS gas, water cannons, and bean bag rounds.

  46.  

    Chicken Hammer

    He went through the mob ahead of him as the mob to his right began rushing his vehicle @alexfrancisburchard:disqus Pull your head out and get a clue.

  47.  

    Niall Huffman

    Ridiculous. The driver precipitated the entire incident by attempting to drive into a crowd of people. He left a place of safety behind the white car and deliberately drove into the thickest part of the crowd, with the intent of frightening them into jumping out of his way.

    Some of the protesters overreacted, I’ll grant that. Hard to blame them after seeing someone threaten other human beings with a two-ton piece of heavy machinery.

  48.  

    Chicken Hammer

    My country @julian_francisco:disqus not yours! Feel free to leave or STFU.

  49.  

    Bolwerk

    Is my drivers license sufficient to allow me to use deadly force every time I perceive danger, or do I have to be in a car before I do it?

  50.  

    Chicken Hammer

    @niallhuffman:disqus The driver was under attack and had he waited we’d have another Reginald Denny story to read about instead of a story of dodging death by mob violence.